Andy Macintosh publishes a peer reviewed paper

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Postby jon_12091 » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:39 am

I remember when WIT first cropped up, they definitely have been playing fast and loose with conference abstracts, as for the journals they publish I don't know. Clearly the editors let Macintosh's paper through, with a dirty great big caveat, whether because they thought it was interesting or strings where pulled is equally unknown - though with Burgess an editor and Macintosh on the editorial board make you own minds up! It would be interesting to see the paper actually says and see what academic feedback gets generated - I suspect the journal may be about to get itself some unwanted attention as ID receives yet another smack down. I tried reading the abstract and I haven't read anything that 'unreadable' since I read a paper out of the Westlakes Institute on the public perception of science - though after a virus my intellect has something of the consistency of cream cheese.
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Postby Roger Stanyard » Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:12 pm

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tubataxidriver wrote: It would seem that the creationists have now latched onto it, as it sounds respectable but is largely unknown because of its odd reputation.


Wessex Institute of Technology is tiny with the number of full time students apparentl;y being in single figures. It's also stuck in the middle of nowehere - Ashurt in the New Forest (Ashurst station was, until recently, known as Lyndhurst Road because Ashurst is so tiny). What it does is ultra-specialised stuff so much of it would be unknown outside a tiny circle of people.

BTW, it recently advertised a job vacancy locally and I was inclined to apply just to get an interview and find out what was going on. The vacancy was with WITPress which is its publishing arm. I've had second thoughts, though.
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Postby Peter Henderson » Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:40 pm

It's also stuck in the middle of nowehere


Sounds a bit like the European Theological Seminary.

Do they offer fake Phds by any chance ?
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Postby Brian Jordan » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:05 pm

Peter Henderson wrote:Sounds a bit like the European Theological Seminary.

Do they offer fake Phds by any chance ?
Surely this wouldn't be possible. Their courses are validated by the University of Wales. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wessex_Ins ... Technology
The European Theological Seminary was based in both Northern Ireland and Birmingham. Wales just happens to sit on the flightpath. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_T ... ernational
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Postby Peter Henderson » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:15 pm

Their courses are validated by the University of Wales


Does the University of Wales know about this ?
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Postby Roger Stanyard » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:20 pm

Peter Henderson wrote:
It's also stuck in the middle of nowehere


Sounds a bit like the European Theological Seminary.

Do they offer fake Phds by any chance ?


I really don't know what the standing of Wessex Institute of Technology is amongst academia. However, when I checked it out some 3-4 years ago, it looked to be a bona fide institution that was both highly specialised - applying the forefront of research to real world issue and pretty commercially focused. It has no resemblance at all to the standards (or lack of them) set by the European Theological Seminary - in effect, a one man band. It would be very wrong of us to start critising Wessex Institute of Technology and comparing it to deadbeat outfits like the ETS. It's fair game to crticise Stephen meyer about using it and also to question the motives of Burgess and McIntosh on its publishing side, though..
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Postby Peter Henderson » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:34 pm

It would be very wrong of us to start critising Wessex Institute of Technology and comparing it to deadbeat outfits like the ETS. It's fair game to crticise Stephen meyer about using it and also to question the motives of Burgess and McIntosh on its publishing side, though..


Then why are they endorsing a science journal that has Burgess and McIntosh on the editorial team ? Are they aware MacIntosh and Burgess are both young Earth Creationists ? Is the journal aware that both McIntosh and Burgess are Young Earth Creationists ? Is the journal even aware of what the article by McIntosh is trying to prove ? Do they even know what McIntosh is trying to imply with the conclusions of this article ?

It could be that no one is even aware of what's going on.

They'll maybe get a shock if it appears in the Answers Research Journal.
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Postby Roger Stanyard » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:48 am

Peter Henderson wrote:
It would be very wrong of us to start critising Wessex Institute of Technology and comparing it to deadbeat outfits like the ETS. It's fair game to crticise Stephen meyer about using it and also to question the motives of Burgess and McIntosh on its publishing side, though..


Then why are they endorsing a science journal that has Burgess and McIntosh on the editorial team ? Are they aware MacIntosh and Burgess are both young Earth Creationists ? Is the journal aware that both McIntosh and Burgess are Young Earth Creationists ? Is the journal even aware of what the article by McIntosh is trying to prove ? Do they even know what McIntosh is trying to imply with the conclusions of this article ?

It could be that no one is even aware of what's going on.

They'll maybe get a shock if it appears in the Answers Research Journal.


One reason for not criticising WIT is the libel laws in the UK. I think it naive to assume that WITPress does not know of McIntosh and Burgess's idiotic scientific views but we have to be very careful about this.
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