CMI day conference in Belfast in October.

[Peter Henderson]

Well, "they haven't gone away you know", as one well known Norn Iron politician once proudly proclaimed. Just when you thought they'd given up on us, I noticed this on CMI's events calendar:

http://creation.com/calendar

Saturday 8 October 2011
Time TBA Day Conference
Belfast

Nothing on speaker(s) or venue yet (wonder if I should ask them on Facebook ?) but I assume it's part of Dominic Statham's speaking tour of NI in October ? I assume they'll probably not be renting the Waterfront Hall, after the AiG fiasco there a few years back. Wonder if it'll be Richview Presbyterian church by any chance ?

I'm going to attempt to get along to this one.

[a_haworthroberts]

I also spotted this one: http://www.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk/faraday ... ourseID=47

[GrumpyBob]

I also spotted this one: http://www.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk/faraday ... ourseID=47

What is "Animal Theology"?

Robert

[jon_12091]

I also spotted this one: http://www.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk/faraday ... ourseID=47

What is "Animal Theology"?

Robert

Animal theology -
http://www.oxfordanimalethics.com/what- ... ay-school/

I think the ".cam.ac.uk" tells you everything you need to know about the short course, (plus its the Faraday Institute).

[GrumpyBob]

I also spotted this one: http://www.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk/faraday ... ourseID=47

What is "Animal Theology"?

Robert

Animal theology -
http://www.oxfordanimalethics.com/what- ... ay-school/

I think the ".cam.ac.uk" tells you everything you need to know about the short course, (plus its the Faraday Institute).

So 'Animal Theology' is a bit of a misnomer, it's actually a christian theological perspective on animal rights?

R

[Peter Henderson]

I also spotted this one: http://www.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk/faraday ... ourseID=47

What is "Animal Theology"?

Robert

Personally, I don't think I'd be prepared to pay £135 to hear a short talk on animal theology Bob, even if Will Crawley and David Livingstone are worth hearing. They need to have some decent names in this debate, such as Ronald Numbers, Eugenie Scott, Philip Kitcher, or Ken Miller. Might be worth going along to then although, how come P.Z. Myers was free ? Even Behe was only a fiver and you got a free DVD..

I see the Norn' Iron events have now disappeared from creation.con for some odd reason ? I wonder if the section is being updated ?

[Peter Henderson]

The day conference info. has now been updated|:

http://creation.com/calendar

Saturday 8 October 2011
9.30am-7.30pm Day Conference Joint CMI/Creation Outreach Ministries
Ballymena Elim Church, Castle Street,, Ballymena, County Antrim
Philip Bell, Dominic Statham, Phil Robinson, Robin Greer, + Guest Speakers

Wonder who the guest speakers are ?

[a_haworthroberts]

Insight into what CMI think the BBC should be showing in peaktime: http://creation.com/doom-and-gloom-from-the-bbc

Have emailed Sue Rider (Cox's media manager I think).

[Dagsannr]

Insight into what CMI think the BBC should be showing in peaktime: http://creation.com/doom-and-gloom-from-the-bbc

So, on one side we have a New Zealand chemist, who's spent most of his life doing publishing work for a missionary organisation whose ' article' consists mainly of saying "Well that can't be right, the bible says different" and whose 'better answers' are bible quotations. (Plus; doom and gloom is almost the purview of christianity. 90% of all people who've ever existed are going to hell simply because they didn't believe in a specific set of dogmatic rules. Happy, happy, happy...)

Against Prof. Brian Cox, a physicist working on some of the most cutting edge particle physics and who's enthusiasm, motivation and, above all, amazing teeth, make him a model for what science is and should be. Someone who knows what real science is, and how to show evidence that works, not just a list of book references written 2000 years ago by a bunch of shepherds and priests. Oh, and he said, live on the BBC, that astrology is rubbish, which gets him brownie points from me.

I dislike the argument from authority, but given the relative knowledge base and experience of the two, I know which one I'd trust to give a view on how the universe functions.

Even I, with my limited knowledge, could pull apart that article with ease, exposing its flaws. But I won't, because it makes me cross just reading it.

[Peter Henderson]

Also, it wasn’t seen as ‘red’ but in the ‘infrared’, radiation that has too long a wavelength to be detected by the human eye. This means it has a very high redshift, and (from the Hubble Law) this is interpreted as a huge distance, allegedly the second most distant object detected as of October 2010. See how this is supposed to work, then why it clearly doesn’t in many cases, in Bye-bye, big bang? An unsolvable riddle for the most popular view of evolutionary astronomy.

I often wonder if Halton Arp is aware of how much his theories are being used by young Earth creationists and, albeit unintentionally,how he's damaging the cause of science ?

Why doesn't Arp come out and say a 6,000 year old universe is complete and utter crap ?

[a_haworthroberts]

Natman

For a moment I thought you were incorrectly referring to Jonathan Sarfati rather than Russell Grigg: http://creation.com/russell-grigg

[a_haworthroberts]

Somehow this astronomer's existence has passed me by - until now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halton_Arp

[Peter Henderson]

Somehow this astronomer's existence has passed me by - until now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halton_Arp

He badly needs to issue a disclaimer Ashley, like Derek Ager has had to do:

http://www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/ag ... _henke.htm

[Peter Henderson]

Natman

For a moment I thought you were incorrectly referring to Jonathan Sarfati rather than Russell Grigg: http://creation.com/russell-grigg

Believe me Natman, the number of times I've been referred to Arp by YECs when I've posted something like the Herschel Atlas images for example, is quite unbelievable.

I know they're simply grasping at straws, but they seem to think people like Arp give them hope.

[a_haworthroberts]

I've received an email from CMI about the Ark Man tour of England (I still await news of the Con Man tour). As follows.


Friday 9–Sunday 18 September 2011
Featuring dynamic Australian speaker Rod Walsh as he tours (with his wife Nancy) across England with a fascinating scale model replica of Noah’s Ark.
Rod’s talks suit all ages.

You can book Rod for your event now.

Available Dates
– Friday 9 September
– Sunday 11 September – we’re aiming for different churches for morning and evening services.
– Wednesday 14 September

Click here or phone 0845 6800 264

Have you have ever been challenged to explain Noah’s Ark and the Genesis Flood?
Don’t miss this unique opportunity to hear Rod as he draws from his own feasibility study, over many years, exactly how plausible the biblical Ark was! Demonstrating with a scale model Ark, and adept use of PowerPoint, Rod communicates in clear, descriptive terms how it may have been built.

He can expertly answer many of the questions that most Christians still don’t know how to answer, such as:
– How big was the Ark and how did all the animals fit?
– Could ancient people’s really build such a structure?
– Were dinosaurs on the Ark?
– Where did all the water come from?
– Where did all the water go from the Flood?
– What evidence do we see today for a global Flood?
– How could the world have been populated in just 4,500 years since the Flood?

Venue Details
Saturday 10 September
7.45pm Public meeting, New Street Evangelical Church, Ph: 01938 556029,
The Corn Exchange, Town Hall, High Street, Welshpool,
Powys SY21 7JQ (Wales)

Tuesday 13 September
6.30pm Whetstone Baptist Church, youth meeting (but others welcome!),
King Street, Whetstone, Leicester

Thursday 15 September
7.30pm Public meeting, Crich Baptist Church,
Market Place, Crich, Matlock, Derbyshire, DE4 5DD

Friday 16 September
8.00pm Public meeting, Quedgeley Baptist Church, Ph: 01452 725 614,
Trinity Baptist Church, Finlay Road, Gloucester, GL4 6SE

Saturday 17 September
7.00pm Public meeting, Cranleigh Baptist Church, Ph: 01483 232925,
262 High Street, Cranleigh, Surrey, GU6 8RT

Sunday 18 September
10.30am Word of Life Christian Church,
12 Marlborough Road, Woking, Surrey, GU21 5JG.

Sunday 18 September
6.30pm Christchurch Fetcham, Fetcham Village Infant School,
School Lane, Fetcham, Surrey, KT22 9JU

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