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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:49 am

Does this mean it will be inspected by creationists? I assume not if it is a Free School.

Well I'm not sure - that needs checking.

I can't believe we missed them being on the CST website before and nothing on their mysterious disappearing website said they were part of it - so I wonder if its a recent thing and if so why? Or are they sort of associate members or what?

What needs checking is whether or not Free schools come fully under state checking and get checked by real Ofsted or whether they can be inspected by contracted out inspectors like Bridge? If Gove is encouraging lots of private schools to become free schools what happens to the private inspectorates under the Ofsted umbrella? Most of which are legit unlike Bridge. Would FOI cover that info from DfE?

If they are part of CST and were when they got funding what does that say about checks and balances when its policies are clearly laid out in sobbing sylvs thesis! If they joined after what does that say about continued funding given the rulings?
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Brian Jordan » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:26 pm

cathy wrote:If they are part of CST and were when they got funding what does that say about checks and balances when its policies are clearly laid out in sobbing sylvs thesis! If they joined after what does that say about continued funding given the rulings?
Maybe they got advice on the matter and decided it would be better to join after they'd got the cash. If, as you ask, they have joined that is. It seems impossible to be sure in the apparent absence of a formal list of member schools.
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:23 pm

cathy wrote:
Does this mean it will be inspected by creationists? I assume not if it is a Free School.

Well I'm not sure - that needs checking.

I can't believe we missed them being on the CST website before and nothing on their mysterious disappearing website said they were part of it - so I wonder if its a recent thing and if so why? Or are they sort of associate members or what?

What needs checking is whether or not Free schools come fully under state checking and get checked by real Ofsted or whether they can be inspected by contracted out inspectors like Bridge? If Gove is encouraging lots of private schools to become free schools what happens to the private inspectorates under the Ofsted umbrella? Most of which are legit unlike Bridge. Would FOI cover that info from DfE?

If they are part of CST and were when they got funding what does that say about checks and balances when its policies are clearly laid out in sobbing sylvs thesis! If they joined after what does that say about continued funding given the rulings?


I was guessing that they were affiliated to the CST before applying for Free School status though one doubts they could have hidden this from the Department for Education even if there was nothing about it on their website or - even - in their application (there was also some 'out of date' creationist material on their website - by 'out of date' I mean they have said they would no longer teach creationism).

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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:49 am

Hmm their name isn't on the Bridge Inspectorate list of schools at all. But does appear on the CST list of schools generally. So I guess even if members they still have to have proper Ofsteds
http://www.christianschoolstrust.co.uk/find_a_school


Bethany School – Sheffield
Finlay Street, Sheffield, South Yorkshire S3 7PS

Tel: 0114 272 6994
Fax: 0114 272 7003
Email: BethanySch@aol.com
Website: http://www.bethany.sheffield.sch.uk


Primary and Secondary
Head Teacher: Mr Ken Walze
Secretary: Mrs Judith Baxter
Bradford Christian School
Livingstone Road, Bolton Woods, Bradford BD2 1BT

Tel: 01274 532 649
Fax: 01274 595 819
Email: bchristians@btconnect.com
Website: http://www.bradfordchristianschool.com


Primary and Secondary
Head Teacher: Mr Phill Moon
Secretary: Mrs Gillian Moffatt
Christian Fellowship School – Liverpool
Overbury Street, Liverpool L7 3HL

Tel: 0151 709 1642
Fax: 0151 709 6164
Email: mail@CFSchool.org.uk
Website: http://www.cfschool.org.uk



Primary and Secondary
Head Teacher: Miss Barbara Lord
Administrators: Mrs Katy Sharples and Mrs Debbie Tran

Covenant Christian School – Stockport
48 Heaton Moor Road, Stockport, Greater Manchester SK4 4NX

Tel: 0161 432 3782
Email: info@covenant-christian-school.co.uk
Website: http://www.covenant-christian-school.co.uk


Primary and Secondary
Head Teacher: Dr. Roger Slack
Emmaus Christian Family School
737a Ecclesall Road, Sheffield, S11 8TE


Tel: 0114 267 1065
Email: emmauscfs@yahoo.co.uk



Primary
Lead Teacher: Mr Dan Fleet

Grindon Hall Christian School, Sunderland
Nookside, Sunderland, SR4 8PG

Tel: 0191 534 4444
Fax: 0191 534 4111
Email: info@grindonhall.com
Website: http://www.grindonhall.com


Primary & Secondary
Principal: Mr Christopher Gray
PA: Mrs Rachel Nurse
Hope House School Barnsley
2, Bulcher Street, Barnsley, South Yorkshire, S70 1AP

Tel: 01226 211 011
Fax: 01226 211 011
Email: admin@hopehouseschool.org.uk
Website: http://www.hopehouseschool.org.uk



Nursery, Primary & Secondary
Head Teacher: Mr Garrie-John Barnes
Secretary: Mr Mike Stead

Kingsfold Christian School – Preston
Moss Lane, Hesketh Bank, Preston, Lancashire PR4 6AA

Tel: 01772 813 824
Email: hbccentre@tiscali.co.uk
Website: http://www.kingsfoldchristianschool.com


Primary and Secondary
Head Teacher: Mr Stephen Lamin
Secretary: Mr Stephen Cookson
New Life Christian Academy


Bridlington Avenue, Hull, HU2 0DU


Tel: 01482 219 670
Email: joanne@newlifehull.org
Website: http://www.newlifeacademy.co.uk


Primary
Head Teacher: Mrs Joanne Bickerton
Newcastle Christian School
Welbeck Road, Byker, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, NE6 2HU

Tel: 0191 281 3636
Email: newcastlechristianschool@gmail.com
Website: http://www.newcastlechristianschool.org.uk


Primary and Secondary
Head Teacher - To be Appointed
Potter’s House – Bury
6 Arley Avenue, Bury, Lancashire BL9 5HD - Nursery



Tel: 0161 705 1885 - Nursery
Fax: 0161 705 1885
Email: admin@pottershouseschool.co.uk - Nursery
Website: http://www.pottershouseschool.co.uk


Nursery
Head Teacher: Hannah Walker
Secretary: Hannah Berry
Trinity School – Stalybridge
Birbeck Street, Stalybridge, Cheshire SK15 1SH

Tel: 0161 303 0674
Fax: 0161 304 7589
Email: jackie@trinityschool.org.uk


Primary and Secondary
Head Teacher: Mr Michael Stewart
Secretary: Mrs Susan Brierley

Maybe they aren't members? But to appear on CST list suggest they are not to be trusted. It is, after all in the hands of education, sanity, science and reality's arch nemesis sobbing Sylv and her merry creationist band.

The next problem is ensuring Ofsted are trained to spot the signs of creationism, especially when inspected dodgy schools.
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:56 am

I don't know if its my imagination or not, but the number of people involved with CST also seems to have increased.
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:15 pm

http://www.christianschoolstrust.co.uk/ ... _education
"God’s truth is found in all knowledge (Science, Maths, English, History, Art, P.E., R.S. etc) so our schools seek to provide an excellent academic environment coupled with a Christ-centred curriculum."
Such comments are very much open to interpretation!
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Michael » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:20 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:http://www.christianschoolstrust.co.uk/why_christian_education
"God’s truth is found in all knowledge (Science, Maths, English, History, Art, P.E., R.S. etc) so our schools seek to provide an excellent academic environment coupled with a Christ-centred curriculum."
Such comments are very much open to interpretation!


They probably would not accept what I say about Christ-centred
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No more creationist free schools? We can hope...

Postby Brian Jordan » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:12 pm

According to the Sunday Times (paywall) the days of "Free" Schools may be numbered. The headline is
Osborne cuts may halt free schools
Sounds like pure speculation, but we can hope. Apparently the Treasury is insisting on cuts rather than borrowing and allegedly has the expenditure on free schools in its eye for cuts in 2015-16. The article also has remarks about Labour planning to close another stable door - on state schools converting to academies
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:03 pm

According to the Sunday Times (paywall) the days of "Free" Schools may be numbered. The headline is
Osborne cuts may halt free schoolsSounds like pure speculation, but we can hope. Apparently the Treasury is insisting on cuts rather than borrowing and allegedly has the expenditure on free schools in its eye for cuts in 2015-16. The article also has remarks about Labour planning to close another stable door - on state schools converting to academies

Please, please, please, please, let that be true. Please let Osborne do one good thing in his miserable tory life.

They are costing a fortune. In time taken to check them and in money given to build new ones! GH has got £6 million to expand and build for starters.
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Brian Jordan » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:55 pm

The government has refused the BHA's FOI request for details of the fourth wave of schools being given away free, on what appear to be totally spurious technical grounds. Whilst still saying that the allegedly real reason is that
its release is likely to ‘prejudice the effective conduct of public affairs’
Translation:
will let people see what we and our cronies are up to.

http://humanism.org.uk/2013/03/05/government-refuses-to-release-fourth-wave-of-free-school-proposals-to-bha/
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:27 pm

looks like exemplars website is up and running after they were granted permission to open this Sept.
www.enba.co.uk/

Though for some reason they've deferred opening until Sept
Public consultation period expired on the 3rd March 2013. Thank you for your feedback which is currently being assessed in conjunction with the DfE. Meantime, the decision has been taken to defer opening the school till September 2014.


Why? Tho this was their last twitter post following the public consultation.
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Lack of interest? Need time to develop a more appealing curriculum?

Just weird given how long and hard they've worked.
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Brian Jordan » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:14 pm

Are you sure they are not just flannelling? It's difficult to believe the DfE is even capable of giving them the OK so soon after the "consultation" period is over. Also the application form introduction has a very provisional feel to it. Remember how the Sheffield lot were trying to drum up trade right until the last minute - well after their submission. Could this lot be trying to turn expressions of interest into definite applications, to appear more convincing?
Wishful thinking on my part, maybe; wishful thinking on their part, maybe.
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Brian Jordan » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:44 am

Hmm, it seems Exemplar may not be the only school recruiting before they get approval, if they're doing that. There's a fuss in today's Yorkshire Post about a proposed Muslim Free School in Halifax (because of allegations that it's linked to an allegedly hard-line private school). In and amongst, the paper says
If the school were to get the go-ahead, it is due to open in September
Intending to open in four months despite no approval yet. Meanwhile parents are allegedly being urged to give up community school places (see 2nd link). http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/education/mp-welcomes-delay-in-interest-of-community-1-5623726Btw, I was surprised to see this statement, which I imagine must surely apply to all Free Schools
A West Yorkshire police spokesman said the force was one of a number of staturotry bodies that has to be consulted about plans for a free school
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/education/exclusive-hardline-islam-fear-over-plans-to-create-free-school-1-5623709
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:25 am

Are you sure they are not just flannelling? It's difficult to believe the DfE is even capable of giving them the OK so soon after the "consultation" period is over. Also the application form introduction has a very provisional feel to it. Remember how the Sheffield lot were trying to drum up trade right until the last minute - well after their submission. Could this lot be trying to turn expressions of interest into definite applications, to appear more convincing?
Wishful thinking on my part, maybe; wishful thinking on their part, maybe.

Yet several free schools have got all the way to funding and on the brink of opening with nowhere near the numbers of pupils required to be remotely viable. I think the DfE website had them down to open this year tho anyone whose consultation period runs until March is going to cause trouble cos national offers day is the first March, so they'll have to go into the process later and will then take pupils from the schools they've already been allocated messing up the whole system. Plus the schools aren't always in areas of need.

The whole system is crap tho. How much money is being spent checking out extremist schools exactly? And some will sneak thru, look at Grindon Hall, I wouldn't trust them that much.
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Fri May 10, 2013 1:51 pm

Just checked the latest magazine of the CST. Sobbing Sylv has a new book out called Swimming Against the Tide about - you've guessed it - the New Christian Schools. It sounds like an extended version of her thesis. Would have been worth a look if it weren't unavailable/out of print on Amazon with only one seller selling it at a whopping £42.00 :shock: :shock:

Maybe when it gets to free downloads for kindle, if it ever does.

However the about the author bit was interesting. And led to the fact she still seems to be working with Leslie Francis from Warwick, though she seems to be based at Glydwr univesity (no me neither - looks small but does have courses on the psychology of religion). The last published piece of work by Les and Sylv seems to be about last year in Peabody journal of education for Vanderbilt Peabody college in the US.
Defining and Assessing Spiritual Health: A Comparative Study Among 13- to 15-Year-Old Pupils Attending Secular Schools, Anglican Schools, and Private Christian Schools in England and Wales
Leslie J. Francis, Gemma Penny, and Sylvia Baker
Peabody Journal of Education: Issues of Leadership, Policy, and Organizations, Vol. 87, No. 3: pages 351-367.


Only the abstract is available.
Leslie J. Francis and Gemma Penny, University of Warwick
Sylvia Baker, Glyndwr University

ABSTRACT

This article argues that the nation's commitment to young people involves proper concern for their physical health, their psychological health, and their spiritual health. In this context the notion of spiritual health is clarified by a critique of John Fisher's model of spiritual health. Fisher developed a relational model of spiritual health, which defines good spiritual health in terms of an individual's relationship to four domains: the personal, the communal, the environmental, and the transcendental. In the present analysis, we make comparisons between pupils educated in three types of schools: publicly funded schools without religious foundation, publicly funded schools with an Anglican foundation, and new independent Christian schools (not publicly funded). Our findings draw attention to significant differences in the levels of spiritual health experienced by pupils within these three types of schools.

ABOUT THE AUTHORS

Leslie J Francis, PhD, ScD, DD, is Professor of Religions and Education within the Warwick Religions and Education Research Unit, University of Warwick, England, and Canon Theologian at Bangor Cathedral, Wales, UK. He is Europe’s most published scholar on religious schooling and the moral health of students in both religious and public schools.

Sylvia Baker, MSc PhD, completed her doctoral research within the Warwick Religions and Education Research Unit and is Visiting Research Fellow at Glyndwr University, Wales, UK

Gemma Penny, MA, MPhil, is Research Associate with the St Mary's Centre, Wales, and is undertaking doctoral research within the Warwick Religions and Education Research Unit, University of Warwick, England, UK.

I guess sobbing Sylv adds the expertise for the tiny number of independent christian schoools she approves of, educating a thankfully tiny percentage of pupils (the prayer requests of CST often mention lack of numbers ha ha). So why it warrants inclusion in any serious document about education and the far larger number of state faith schools is way beyond me!!! I hope for the sake of state faith schools there are no real similarities between her poor pupils and them.

Can't find any mention of sobbing Sylv on the Glyndwr website, they only have an Sally Baker, psychologist. Though they do do a psychology of religion course and these seem to be odd journals for a psychology dept to peer review?
The psychology team organise a number of research seminars throughout the year which are open to anyone with an interest in the subject.

The psychology team are also involved in peer reviewing articles for journals, and sit on a number of editorial boards. The division of Psychology is currently the ‘editorial home’ of the following journals:

European Journal of Pentecostal Theology
•Mental Health, Religion and Culture
Rural Theology: International, ecumenical and interdisciplinary perspectives
•Welsh Journal of Psychology

Is pentacostal theology a normal sort of thing for a psychology dept to be experts in? Or is it me. Was it being a pentocostal sort of creationist that she argued with Roger about on the radio Russia interview??

Anyway, given the Grindon Hall link to CST recently uncovered by bcse I think Sylv might be publishing stuff to give her christian schools credibility?? To try and entice in more free schools perhaps?

Oh and the CST are starting a new Teacher Training course in Sept 2013 The Essential Christian Teacher and The Essential Christian School Leader.
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