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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Moon Fire » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:16 pm

Brian Jordan wrote:
a_haworthroberts wrote:Peter Henderson I think. A bit unfair.
Only "a bit" Ashley? Now that is a bit unfair!


Just borrow your dad's trident and poke him with it! ;)
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Brian Jordan » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:17 pm

Moon Fire wrote:
Brian Jordan wrote:
a_haworthroberts wrote:Peter Henderson I think. A bit unfair.
Only "a bit" Ashley? Now that is a bit unfair!


Just borrow your dad's trident and poke him with it! ;)
You reckon I'm a Neptunian, rather than a Plutonian then? :)
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:31 pm

Looks like Exemplar are doing everything they can to appear ok.
www.newarkadvertiser.co.uk/view/School- ... ism-claims

Part of which states


However the comments underneath look interesting. One points out Daniel Adams has had a role with ECC

believe Mr Adam is or was working for Lindum the developers of the Jessop Way business park and so built the Everyday Champions church on one of these plots. It is possible that his interest in the project is to secure a lucrative construction contract for Lindum. If millions of tax payers money is to be spent on a new school (after an initial phase in temporary accommodation) then a full and fair tendering competition should be carried out, showing no favouritism to Lindum.

Which is answered to be fair.

There are also rather a lot of comments asking the question why the school would still have a 'religious' ethos if so many of the board members are now NON christians and unconnected with the church. Those aren't really answered tho. A new website should be up and running soon. But I can't see any creationist loon changing its creationist loon spots myself.

And this question was also interesting in the comments

thanks for the response Daniel.
But as you are very aware the parental supporters signed up EVEN BEFORE the initial bid was rejected because of the whacky creationist beliefs, correct?
So now the school has been jettisoned from the project why does a christian ethos remain? Is The preacher of creationism Gareth Morgan still involved in the school project?

Which wasn't answered and it would appear that the person doing the quesioning had already put similar questions to creationist looney loon and pastro Gareth Morgan, where they were also ignored.

Interestingly the link I found before listing Gareth Morgan as a director has changed slightly. It now says he resigned in Feb? That wasn't there before was it? Why do creationist things keep mysteriously altering?

Paul Bossomworth the so called remaining member of the creationist church is listed here
http://www.company-director-check.co.uk ... /916032011
Where it appears he is also linked to something called the Reachout Community Church.

The other director linked to Exemplar also seems to have links to this Reachout Community Church. Michael John Sivers. So out of the three directors two are clearly some kind of christian! So anyone heard of Reachout?

Only Daniel Adams is new by the way. The others were on board for the original creationist bid last May 2011.
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Grindon go-ahead

Postby Brian Jordan » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:41 pm

Grindon have got the dosh and are away. They may have cut Burn adrift now he's oiled the slipway for them, or he could be lurking in the scuppers.
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:27 pm

Gove is a idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF has he done to education. He has got to be the stupidest idiotic moronic individual ever born. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Moon Fire » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:26 pm

cathy wrote:Gove is a idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF has he done to education. He has got to be the stupidest idiotic moronic individual ever born. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


What's he done now?
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:03 pm

What's he done now?

Continued to breathe. :evil:
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Moon Fire » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:36 pm

cathy wrote:
What's he done now?

Continued to breathe. :evil:


Yeah, he does tend to do that.....it really makes me worried what's going to happen to the education system in this country. :(
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Brian Jordan » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:28 pm

Moon Fire wrote:
cathy wrote:
What's he done now?

Continued to breathe. :evil:


Yeah, he does tend to do that.....it really makes me worried what's going to happen to the education system in this country. :(
And how on earth we're going to get back the schools he's given away.
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:20 pm

And how on earth we're going to get back the schools he's given away.
I'm not sure the damage he's doing this time is reparable. The last tory govts foray into getting rid of state education via grant maintained schools was easily reversed by labour. The academies legislation means seven years legally to disentangle. Plus of course the crap free schools. How could you ever get them into the LEA and proper national curriculum and standards box when they'll have never had to teach properly or understand. Imagine Grindon Hall creationists or Gareth being faced with having to put their personal beliefs behind them and teach facts. :evil:

What makes it really sad is that all the hard work with literacy and numeracy strategy and trying to get more people interested in science has finally started to pay off.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19272988
More pupils taking science to A levels.

Gove is an moron. And tipped to be next leader? Yet makes boris look like Einstein. :evil: :evil:
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Michael » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:16 pm

Brian Jordan wrote:
Moon Fire wrote:[ b] a bit unfair!


Just borrow your dad's trident and poke him with it! ;)
You reckon I'm a Neptunian, rather than a Plutonian then? :)[/quote]
Neptunist and plutonist :roll:
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Brian Jordan » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:59 pm

Michael wrote:
Brian Jordan wrote:
Moon Fire wrote:[ b] a bit unfair!


Just borrow your dad's trident and poke him with it! ;)
You reckon I'm a Neptunian, rather than a Plutonian then? :)

Neptunist and plutonist :roll:
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby Brian Jordan » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:19 am

Meanwhile, veering slightly back towards the topic, a non-creationist Free School has come a cropper. It exemplifies all that is wrong with the Free School system. A would-be school run by a football club, of all people, has had its opening cancelled because of a 40% deficit in the number of pupils signed up for places. So we have an organisation unrelated to education but with a high public profile that must have gathered lots of signatures from people declaring it their first choice for their children. Only to fall down when, having seen the reality facing their children, the parents change their minds and opt for somewhere more conventional.
Remember Bethany crying out for signatures right up to the bitter end?
Edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-19396745
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Re: Two more creationist free schools approved

Postby cathy » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:43 pm

And meanwhile the now state funded Grindon Hall is up and running and I would guess looking at their gcse results - it will get full numbers of students. It looks very impressive on paper - tho just ok for the private sector which is what it was when these gcses were taken.

Tho two things come to mind. The first is they are moving from small private school with small classes which make good results more likely (motivated parents, small class sizes, lots of time for individual attention and revision classes). Once in the state sector small classes aren't affordable. I'd be very interested to see the results in a few years time when its first full state year goes thru. With state sized class sizes and timetables and financing.

Secondly what on earth does the comment I've underlined mean?
2012 GCSE Results

We are delighted with another year of excellent GCSE results, out today (23rd August). 94% of our students achieved at least 5 A*-C grades; 83% achieved 5 A*-C grades including Maths and English; and our English Baccalaureate score was 57% (the national average in 2011 was 15%). We would expect to be at or near the top of most league tables once again this year. As we often say, however, we do not regard league tables as particularly important and certainly do not adapt our subject offering in response to them - but it is nevertheless important that we encourage all our students to achieve the best of which they are capable. Well done to all students and teachers on another fine set of results.


Hmm not sure what that means? And without a fuller breakdown of their results subject by subject it is also hard to judge. For example was science offered as triple option for some or just double award? How many at foundation or higher tier? Were there a lot of just 5 Cs or a full range from the 12 A* lot down to 5 Cs? A lot of schools trumpet their top students as well as their overall percentages - this lot haven't. Which is uncharecteristic and not very informative especially for a private school (even tho it is now aiming to indoctrinate the masses as well). Have they ditched dodgy Burn or is he still around.

Still time on Exemplar and Sevenoaks still an unknown with no track record at all.
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