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Creationism still problem in US schools.

Postby cathy » Mon May 13, 2013 2:11 pm

Got this interesting article from this Fridays TES. About a lad called Zack Kopplinin Louisiana who is having to fight creationism in Louisiana schools - in the 21st century.
www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6333643

http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6333643

There was an interesting UK comment about the Discovery Institute as well
Even the most liberal countries are not immune from clashes over evolution: in 2005, a Dutch education minister drew criticism from scientists for proposing the teaching of intelligent design to encourage debate between different religions.

In the UK, the rise of free schools, which can be set up by teachers, parents or charities and are exempt from following the national curriculum, has attracted interest from creationist groups. And members of the Discovery Institute have targeted UK schools, sending anti-Darwinist textbooks to their libraries.
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Re: Creationism still problem in US schools.

Postby Peter Henderson » Mon May 13, 2013 5:11 pm

Got this interesting article from this Fridays TES. About a lad called Zack Kopplinin Louisiana who is having to fight creationism in Louisiana schools - in the 21st century.


Zack Kopplin's been at this for a while now Cathy, and having some success.

He's caught the attention of Ken Ham:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... ainwashing
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Re: Creationism still problem in US schools.

Postby Brian Jordan » Thu May 16, 2013 8:48 pm

A reference to Zack, on RatSkep, led me to this article on the problems with the USA voucher system. Which results in creationist "education" being paid for by the state.
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/07/photos-evangelical-curricula-louisiana-tax-dollars
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Re: Creationism still problem in US schools.

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:37 pm

http://crev.info/2013/06/evolutionists- ... -creation/ (worth a read because of the topic - this YEC blogger doesn't JUST post mindless propaganda and bombard readers with unnecessarily emotive language, though this particular effort does soon stray into er propaganda and emotive language)
http://www.nature.com/news/science-in-schools-1.12979 (the Nature editorial is mostly about the NCSE)

The fallacy committed by the blogger is that the 'view' of evolutionists holds no more weight than the beliefs of hardline young Earth creationists. Yet the former is supported by reams of evidence and the latter is (half, perhaps two-thirds) supported by verses from scripture.

The post goes off the rails when the font suddenly turns green. Like most YECs he feels obliged to portray scientists as dogmatists intolerant of dialogue. No - it's just that science, whilst sometimes provisional and sometimes involving ongoing legitimate disagreement regarding evidence, does not allow dissenters to reject established facts on a whim or to invent 'alternative' facts that are desired by any pre-supposed rigid dogmas that may be adhered to.

What people like this in the US of A call 'leftists' I would call centrists - they are often extremely right-wing themselves. so a normal person is deemed a 'leftist'.

He also presumes to insist that evolution - where it IS taught in US schools - is not taught "honestly". Presumably the teachers must have forgotten the 'controversy'...
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Re: Creationism still problem in US schools.

Postby Brian Jordan » Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:51 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:The post goes off the rails when the font suddenly turns green.
Brilliant Ashley! Should be in the Oxford Book of Quotations - or at least somebody's sig. :lol: :lol: :lol: .
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