Answers in Genesis - Desperate Measures

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Re: Answers in Genesis - Desperate Measures

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:58 am

a_haworthroberts wrote:"naturalism is atheism". Guess who, in his blog post for 7 June.
http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs ... Ken+Ham%29

And by sheer coincidence (maybe): http://gracesalt.wordpress.com/2013/06/ ... /#comments (I commented by email early on Friday evening UK time, just after receiving the email notification, and before catching up with Ham's blog which probably appeared a bit earlier in the day)
'Naturalism IS atheism'.

NO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism_(philosophy)
Many scientists who follow a religion adhere to naturalism in their science.

Typing 'IS' instead of 'is' doesn't help a YEC if they are wrong in the first place.

Atheism is naturalistic. But YECs hate naturalism too, even though a god could act 'naturally' some of the time.



YECs dislike naturalism as being how science is taken forward. Yet what they really object to, though they rarely say it, is 'evidence only'.
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Re: Answers in Genesis - Desperate Measures

Postby Peter Henderson » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:38 am

Ken Ham responds to claims the creation museum is in deep trouble:

Here is just one example of the urban myths many secularists are posting across the internet at the present time. For those who just repost, I’m sure they do so with glee as they regurgitate the myths/lies someone else posted. For those who make up these lies, maybe they hope to somehow undermine the Creation Museum in some way.

For those of you who have been to the Creation Museum previously, and in recent times, one of the many myths in this post will stand out immediately—that nothing has changed at the Creation Museum in 5 years! What nonsense!

Also, we just closed the books on the 2012-2013 fiscal year—it’s our biggest year yet! And, Creation Museum attendance and budget exceeded projections.

Sad news apparently for the atheists—the Creation Museum continues to expand, and continues to attract visitors from across the USA and around the world and continues to teach people the truth about God’s Word beginning in Genesis and the gospel—and continues to exceed projections. All praise to the Lord.

I have news for the secularists—the Creation Museum and the ministry of AiG are reaching more people than ever with the truth of the creation/gospel message.

Oh by the way--the 'end is coming' --read 2 Peter 3!

http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com ... r-ken-ham/


Actually, I'd tend to agree with Ham. The demise of this monstrosity is somewhat premature :(

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham?hc_location=stream
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Re: Answers in Genesis - Desperate Measures

Postby Peter Henderson » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:08 pm

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Re: Answers in Genesis - Desperate Measures

Postby Roger Stanyard » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:23 pm

Peter Henderson wrote:More on his blog:

http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs ... d-and-bad/


Scam claims "Some bloggers also falsely say that we are not adding new exhibits to the museum, thus we are stale and people have stopped coming. Well, contrary to the critics, the museum has been so successful (far more people have visited than we projected in 2007 when we opened) that we are able to add new exhibits each year. Just a few weeks ago, we opened a world-class insect display, a fantastic dragon exhibit, and added new Bibles to the Verbum Domini collection."

Yer, yer. Apparently 20 Bibles will be on display including one once owned by Elvis Presley. I bet that all took years of scholarly research to put together. Most of the Bibles appear to be on temporary loan to Scam's outfit. Dragons? Well lots of picture of them. The insect display being world class? I doubt it. Most major displays in proper museums will be just samples of vast collections held by them. I doubt any serious professional biologist will be bothering to turn up and See Scam's collection. Take it for granted that AiG never put the collection together. It was donated by a single person. So all Scam seems to have invested in are some paintings of dragons.

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Re: Answers in Genesis - Desperate Measures

Postby Peter Henderson » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:15 am

It's all baloney says Ham:

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/magazine-in- ... noahs-ark/

“Our museum revenues have not declined. They are consistent with last year and are above our projections for this fiscal year (about to conclude). For all of AiG, our revenues are up from last year,” Ham reports. “Also, had they contacted us directly about Ark donations, [Christianity Today] would have learned that funding is steadily coming in for the Ark Encounter.”

According to Ham, an inquiry into Christianity Today’s reporting revealed the magazine relied on a pair of area “leftist tabloids” about its fundraising and an old financial report – inaccurately interpreted – for its information on the museum’s revenues.

“You have to be very careful reading these records,” Ham explains. “The CT reporter saw a figure from our former fiscal year, ending June 2012. … In the public records, it could appear that 2011 was better than 2012, but that’s not true: We had just spun off a part of AiG into another non-profit, and figures for that new non-profit of ours are now in a separate public document. When you add both our non-profit groups together, revenue for 2012 and 2011 was consistent.

“Bottom line: Nobody at CT called us to get the museum’s financial data from the past 12 months,” Ham says. “Instead, it relied on old numbers and three secondary sources (two of which can’t be trusted to cover us accurately).”

Ham claims Christianity Today has refused to retract its errors and AiG has been hit with concerned callers who have read the report “asking if the museum is in trouble.”
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Re: Answers in Genesis - Desperate Measures

Postby Roger Stanyard » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:35 pm

Peter Henderson wrote:It's all baloney says Ham:

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/magazine-in- ... noahs-ark/

“Our museum revenues have not declined. They are consistent with last year and are above our projections for this fiscal year (about to conclude). For all of AiG, our revenues are up from last year,” Ham reports. “Also, had they contacted us directly about Ark donations, [Christianity Today] would have learned that funding is steadily coming in for the Ark Encounter.”

According to Ham, an inquiry into Christianity Today’s reporting revealed the magazine relied on a pair of area “leftist tabloids” about its fundraising and an old financial report – inaccurately interpreted – for its information on the museum’s revenues.

“You have to be very careful reading these records,” Ham explains. “The CT reporter saw a figure from our former fiscal year, ending June 2012. … In the public records, it could appear that 2011 was better than 2012, but that’s not true: We had just spun off a part of AiG into another non-profit, and figures for that new non-profit of ours are now in a separate public document. When you add both our non-profit groups together, revenue for 2012 and 2011 was consistent.

“Bottom line: Nobody at CT called us to get the museum’s financial data from the past 12 months,” Ham says. “Instead, it relied on old numbers and three secondary sources (two of which can’t be trusted to cover us accurately).”

Ham claims Christianity Today has refused to retract its errors and AiG has been hit with concerned callers who have read the report “asking if the museum is in trouble.”


Dead easy to see through ex-Big Ken Ham on this. It's standard PR puffery and spin. Scam would be believable if he actually gave the figures, especially actual visitor numbers. The Ark Encounter is way, way short of being anywhere near its funding requirement. Saying that donations are "steady" means nothing.
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