It depends what you mean by 'truth' and 'discernment'

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It depends what you mean by 'truth' and 'discernment'

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:28 pm

Truth4Youth have invited Dominic Statham to speak at the their conference later in the summer:
http://truth4youth.co.uk/
It's not clear what his topic will be, though the page states: "Dominic Statham is a speaker and writer for Creation Ministries International and the author of Evolution: Good Science? Exposing the ideological nature of Darwin’s Theory. He is a Chartered Engineer and former employee of Rolls Royce working on projects for the Military, Jaguar and Land Rover".
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Re: It depends what you mean by 'truth' and 'discernment'

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:30 am

Truth4Youth do not say who they are on their website, but they appear to be linked to Bere Regis Congregational Chapel (whose website, in 2013, is currently under construction I suspect for the first time). On the 'Contact Us' page they give a phone number and also the address: Truth 4 Youth, Rose Cottage, Butt Lane, Bere Regis, Dorset BH20 7HZ (the Chapel is also on Butt Lane). People surnamed Gee appear to live at the contact address. They must be chapel members, as the minister appears to be a Rev Jim Morris. Truth4Youth are clearly fundamentalist in outlook as on their 'What's New' page they write: "Always need creation teaching, it’s the foundation of our faith".

Their version of 'discernment' appears to be that if any science or knowledge contradicts scripture it must be false.
http://truth4youth.co.uk/objectives

I am not clear whether they have decided to reject science in favour of young Earth creationism simply because the latter 'defends' sound doctrine, or whether they have investigated science (on YEC websites and in YEC literature and so forth) and accepted what YECs like Statham tell them.

Either way, I do not personally think that their stance is very discerning. But if I was a Christian fundamentalist today I would probably say something different.
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Re: Truth4Youth

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:37 am

Another page, with two more names - Graham Gee and Rosa Brighton.
http://www.moriel.org/About/About/about ... ended.html
Truth4Youth are being recommended by 'Moriel Ministries'.
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Re: It depends what you mean by 'truth' and 'discernment'

Postby Peter Henderson » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:06 pm

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Re: Truth4Youth

Postby Roger Stanyard » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:12 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:Another page, with two more names - Graham Gee and Rosa Brighton.
http://www.moriel.org/About/About/about ... ended.html
Truth4Youth are being recommended by 'Moriel Ministries'.


I've come across Moriel Ministries repeatedly. They are crackpots; see - http://moriel.org/AUS/AUS_main.html
Those who believe absurdities will commit atrocities - Voltaire
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Re: Truth4Youth

Postby Brian Jordan » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:08 pm

Roger Stanyard wrote:I've come across Moriel Ministries repeatedly. They are crackpots; see - http://moriel.org/AUS/AUS_main.html
Wasn't some fairly prominent politician tainted by association with them?
EDIT: no, wrong end of the stick. It was Peniel and Eric Pickles' constituency party was alleged to have been tainted by infiltration, not Pickles himself.
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