How YECs try to brainwash Christians

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How YECs try to brainwash Christians

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:31 pm
"This discovery should be no surprise to those who take Genesis as literal history."

Oh yes it damned well should - assuming those people are relying solely on the Bible. (But YEC Christians ADD to scripture and TWIST scripture - as of course old earth creationists and theistic evolutionists also sometimes do, though unlike the anti-science YEC liars these others accept science and try to make it fit with the Bible.)

Why - if you just read the Bible - should there be fossils of evergreen trees in ANTARCTICA (namely they found the remains of a forest of extinct Glossopteris genus seed ferns, strange how many species have gone un-biblically extinct isn't it)?

But YEC is an anti-scientific, pseudo-scientific cult within fundamentalist Christianity - with no scruples about Making Stuff Up in order to defend the Bible and attack 'secular' science. In particular, they use the Genesis account of Noah's Flood to 'solve' almost every problem that Reality (ie real evidence) presents.

"The Bible clearly describes a global Flood that affected all land masses—why should Antarctica be an exception?" How does a 'global Flood' explain the remains of warmth loving trees in Antarctica - trees that clearly were growing in situ in what is today, and was 4,500 years ago, a huge frozen polar continent? No answer. Just BELIEVE in a 'global' Flood - and it will solve all the problems that Reality presents for the biblical accounts found in Genesis.
"These discoveries demonstrate that a much warmer global climate existed in the pre-Flood world." Funny how the footnote with this tripe is NO Bible verse, and not even a Bible theologian from past centuries - but a book written recently by, you guessed it, Mr Tim Clarey himself.

And the attacks upon science, a key part of the YEC brainwashing effort, continue:
"Secular science even admits Antarctica was not always cold in the past." No Mr Clarey. What you REALLY mean is "Biblical creationists even admit that Antarctica was not always cold in the past". Science has no problem with that. Those who rely on the Bible ALONE, surely DO. Which is why YECs ADD to what the Bible actually says and means. It's a cult essentially.
"How could proteins and original amino acids survive for millions of years? The secular science community has no viable answers to explain remarkable finds like these." It must be so! Since they've provided a supporting reference. Ooh - it's a past article by the ICR.

And here's the bottom line for delusional or ignorant YECs - "So, the fossil trees themselves tell a different and a far more recent story—one that fits the biblical account of a global Flood just thousands of years ago." These fossilised, extinct, trees on a frozen continent do NOT fit with the Bible, whether a 'recent' global Flood or ANYTHING ELSE in Genesis. "These trees were buried rapidly during the global Flood described in Genesis." Oh no they were not. "Temperate and tropical plants and animals were caught up and quickly buried in the ash, mud, and sand that engulfed them in this cataclysmic event." The Bible makes NO mention of volcanic ash during the Genesis flood. Though according to the referenced Live Science article: "The [Permian] extinction was probably driven by massive greenhouse gas emissions from volcanoes, which raised the planet's temperatures to extreme levels and caused the oceans to acidify, scientists have found."

"These fossils remind us that God’s Word is true." You just ADDED to God's Word, Clarey. Because of discovered Reality. And hoping that nobody would notice. (Most YECs probably won't notice.)
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Re: How YECs try to brainwash Christians

Postby a_haworthroberts » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 pm ... d-together
"This slab of dinosaur, crocodile, pterosaur, and mammal footprints provides dramatic evidence that supports the biblical account of creation and the Flood." So why are dinosaur and human fossils never found together in the same layers (we are mammals too)? CMI claim "Three well known mechanisms for stratigraphic differentiation commonly used by biblical creationists are: ecological zonation (such that different life-forms in different strata reflect the serial destruction, transport and burial of ecological life-zones during the Flood); differential escape (the smarter, more endothermic, and greater mobility an organism has, the higher in the fossil record it will tend to be); hydrodynamic sorting (i.e. the smaller, denser, and more spheroid organisms are, the quicker they will settle out of the Floodwaters into sediments)." See: Differential escape (which tries unsuccessfully to explain how and why modern mammals are only found in higher layers where dinosaur fossils have never been found) of course goes against what the fantasist Michael Oard is trying to suggest in the latest article concerning more ancient (and sometimes extinct) mammals that occasionally were fossilised in the same layers as dinosaurs. (When discussing that we haven't ever found rabbit fossils in the pre-Cambrian CMI stated "a Precambrian rabbit would go against the prevailing understanding of the fossil record": ... -evolution)
There was also this recent article: ... an-rabbits It made the claim: "the absence of such a rabbit does not falsify biblical creation". But it makes 'recent creation' plus 'flood geology' (to 'explain' the pattern of the fossil record) look incredibly unlikely. CMI want to have it both ways. Modern mammals entirely absent from Pre-Cambrian layers as well as other lower layers that contain dinosaur fossils - 'not' a problem for them. But an occasional mammal fossil in a dinosaur layer (small squirrel sized creatures, based on the tracks that have been found) "provides dramatic evidence that supports the biblical account of creation and the Flood". I think not.

The new CMI article's Conclusion also attacks a strawman version of evolution. In favour of yet more flood geology nonsense.
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