Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

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The plank in Ken Ham's eye

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:18 pm

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''Richard Dawkins claims his new book is intended to help both the young and old “think for themselves." But Dawkins doesn't want them thinking for themselves. He wants to convince them to reject the God of the Bible and adopt his religion of atheism. That's why he wrote his book, "The God Delusion," and this new book about "how we can outgrow God and religion." He is desperately trying to take as many people to Hell with him as he can...
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... eligion/''

Yet at the same time this hypocrite Ken Ham is lying to Christians about human-caused climate change, presuming to tell them what they 'should' think about this issue (an urgent issue on which the science is absolutely settled and on which the Bible is silent):
https://answersingenesis.org/outreach/e ... te-change/ (mixing the Gospel and WILFUL LYING is never a good idea)

I saw Dawkins on Newsnight this week. He has some respect for the Church of England (who do not lie about climate change or other settled science). But he was absolutely scathing about young earth creationists and other fundamentalists (Muslims not just claimed Christians) who eg insist upon a literal Adam and Eve. (As well as LYING about current global warming.)

(And Ham and co are coming to the UK next month: https://answersingenesis.org/outreach/event/ukmega19/)
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Rabble rouser and liar

Postby a_haworthroberts » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:12 pm

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''So from a secularist perspective, what's the point of fearing this anyway? After all, as Bill Nye said to me "when you die, you're done." So when such people die, according to their worldview, they won't even remember they existed, so it's all ultimately meaningless and purposeless.
Now, like Bill Nye, they might say that they want to make the place better for future generations. But why? When they die they won't know they existed either and so it's all meaningless and pointless.
But the fact is that God is the one who will determine when the end of this earth will come--and it will be by a judgment of fire.
In the meantime, "While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease" (Genesis 8:22). This doesn't mean we shouldn't do our best to take care of the creation but using it for man's good and God's glory.
“The fear of man lays a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD is safe” (Proverbs 29:25).
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/carol-r ... eZUs3e1k''

This liar and bigot says that if you don't agree with his beliefs (including his lies about man-caused global warming) then life, and future life, are meaningless and pointless. I'm not sure that claim is even biblical - certainly with reference to the New Testament.

And the way he uses (misuses) Genesis 8:22 for his anti manmade global warming agenda is both dishonest and hypocritical.

Ken Ham is a dangerous liar and extremist.

(And a coward whose organisation censors its informed opponents.)
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Right wing rabble rousers

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:22 pm

And here's something else for those liars Ham, Sorensen, Long and Trump (and the Brazilian populist) to pretend is 'not' happening - because they (the Americans at least) have adopted an extreme religiously-motivated intolerant 'worldview' that informs them (allegedly from 'the Bible' but only by twisting Genesis 8:21-22) that everything is 'normal' with Earth's climate, God is fully 'in control', so there's nothing to worry about and no actions to reduce our use of fossil fuels or reduce deforestation are needed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49756260

And if you disagree you are labelled a 'fool' or a climate change 'cultist' or some such.
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Latest garbage from demented extremist Ken Ham

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:16 pm

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''The Bible makes it clear parents, not the state, are responsible for children. Sadly, more and more the state wants to impose the state religion of atheism on generations of students. This could happen in the USA depending on who controls the culture. [the link provided appears to be broken]''

If students are educated at independent/private schools like Alleyn's School (or Eton College) then their parents have the responsibility for them and they are being educated by their PARENTS ie biblically. (In other words HOME-SCHOOLING and sending your children to a private or independent school are one and the same thing.)

You learn something new every day.
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On his way to hell for lying to Christians

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:12 am

https://answersingenesis.org/environmen ... justified/
Yet more misinformation from the liar and reality denier Ken Ham who is desperate to ignore the evidence for man-caused global warming and desperate to ruin the future for young people. The man is evil and is on his way to hell because he is a fake 'Christian'.

All this evil man does is promote HIMSELF.

This post has been sent to those lying fundamentalists at Answers in Genesis.

''This track record should cause everyone to pause and consider that the issues are much more complicated than they appear ... Climates change, but why they change doesn’t seem to be as straightforward as we’re often told.'' LIAR and BRAINWASHER.

''Such hysteria has really resulted from generations of young people not being taught how to think and being brainwashed in secular philosophy!'' HYPOCRITE and LIAR and BRAINWASHER.
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Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his biased Facebook fans

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:57 pm

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''This will be coming to America, if this country continues on the anti-science, anti-biblical path it's on.
It's really not surprising such anti-science and anti-biblical situations are happening, given that generations have been brainwashed by the secular education systems and the media (and, sadly, much of the church) to believe in anti-science by being indoctrinated to believe in evolution.
Evolution is anti-science—it's absurd to believe one kind of animal has evolved into another; and it's absurd to believe matter gave rise to life by natural processes; and it's absurd to believe matter by natural processes produced a code and an information system (DNA) and that matter supposedly has continued to generate new information for evolution. No wonder people are so gullible to be brainwashed into believing males can change to females and vice versa.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/british- ... HGoi81qI''

Yet Ken Ham is rabidly anti-science when it comes to the topic of ongoing global warming that is clearly being caused by human activities changing the atmosphere. What a hypocrite.
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Rabble rouser and liar Ken Ham

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:01 am

https://answersingenesis.org/evolution/ ... sh-theory/
A blog post made with reference to this story:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/hum ... evelopment
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49876827
https://dev.biologists.org/content/146/20/dev180349

In the words of that expert Mr Ham: ''... these evolutionists believe this is a throwback to 250 million years ago when we shared a common ancestor with lizards. But what does a world-class anatomist who specialized in embryology have to say about this research? Well, he summed it up in one word: “rubbish.”''

If you are a supporter of Ken Ham that passes for a 'refutation'.

Well, there was a bit more to his claims. ''Dr. Menton explained that, since muscles are the result of the fusion of muscle cells throughout development, attempting to build an evolutionary case is simply not possible.'' That unreferenced claim - that you cannot build any evolutionary case - looks suspiciously made-up to me (it's also something I have never read Menton claim eg in the Answers in Genesis website previously).

Menton states: ''these researchers looked at presumably aborted human embryos up to thirteen weeks gestation and found that there are about thirty muscles in the hand, when there are about 19 muscles in the adult human hand'' and then claims: ''Where do you start counting? The adult human has anywhere from 640–850 muscles. The exact number depends on who is doing the counting. How do you claim that embryos have more hand muscles than adults when there is no firm number of muscles in the body?''

But that Science News article clearly states: ''For instance, at seven weeks of gestation, embryonic hands have about 30 muscles. Adults have about 19. Many of the muscles are lost, and some fuse with others, adopting the adult arrangement by 13 weeks of gestation, researchers report October 1 in Development.'' If the difference is between 30 and 19 it should be possible to tell, with modern microscopes, that there are less muscles in the hand of a human after birth compared to embryos. Yet Answers in Genesis are effectively accusing trained scientists of making stuff up. That article also specifically - unlike Menton - discusses epitrochleoanconeus and dorsometacarpales muscles (which most adult humans do not possess).

And WHAT has apoptosis got to do with loss of muscles during development?

As often happens it would appear that Answers in Genesis are LYING about physical evidence. In order to falsely claim: ''Evolutionists use their worldview to impose it on the evidence to try to brainwash people into believing the evidence is consistent with an evolutionary view of origins. But in doing so, they ignore observational science that contradicts their worldview. Creationists who start with the Bible have a worldview that they apply to the evidence, but look at observational science to see if it confirms their worldview—and it does!''
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Rabble rouser Ken Ham's son in law

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Rabble rouser Ken Ham's son in law

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:51 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2019/10/dinosaurs-dragons-bible.html


People can't comment under Bodie Hodge's video. But they can, and have, at Panda's Thumb.
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Rabble rouser Ken Ham

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:04 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:https://answersingenesis.org/evolution/lizard-men-evolution-or-rubbish-theory/
A blog post made with reference to this story:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/hum ... evelopment
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49876827
https://dev.biologists.org/content/146/20/dev180349

In the words of that expert Mr Ham: ''... these evolutionists believe this is a throwback to 250 million years ago when we shared a common ancestor with lizards. But what does a world-class anatomist who specialized in embryology have to say about this research? Well, he summed it up in one word: “rubbish.”''

If you are a supporter of Ken Ham that passes for a 'refutation'.

Well, there was a bit more to his claims. ''Dr. Menton explained that, since muscles are the result of the fusion of muscle cells throughout development, attempting to build an evolutionary case is simply not possible.'' That unreferenced claim - that you cannot build any evolutionary case - looks suspiciously made-up to me (it's also something I have never read Menton claim eg in the Answers in Genesis website previously).

Menton states: ''these researchers looked at presumably aborted human embryos up to thirteen weeks gestation and found that there are about thirty muscles in the hand, when there are about 19 muscles in the adult human hand'' and then claims: ''Where do you start counting? The adult human has anywhere from 640–850 muscles. The exact number depends on who is doing the counting. How do you claim that embryos have more hand muscles than adults when there is no firm number of muscles in the body?''

But that Science News article clearly states: ''For instance, at seven weeks of gestation, embryonic hands have about 30 muscles. Adults have about 19. Many of the muscles are lost, and some fuse with others, adopting the adult arrangement by 13 weeks of gestation, researchers report October 1 in Development.'' If the difference is between 30 and 19 it should be possible to tell, with modern microscopes, that there are less muscles in the hand of a human after birth compared to embryos. Yet Answers in Genesis are effectively accusing trained scientists of making stuff up. That article also specifically - unlike Menton - discusses epitrochleoanconeus and dorsometacarpales muscles (which most adult humans do not possess).

And WHAT has apoptosis got to do with loss of muscles during development?

As often happens it would appear that Answers in Genesis are LYING about physical evidence. In order to falsely claim: ''Evolutionists use their worldview to impose it on the evidence to try to brainwash people into believing the evidence is consistent with an evolutionary view of origins. But in doing so, they ignore observational science that contradicts their worldview. Creationists who start with the Bible have a worldview that they apply to the evidence, but look at observational science to see if it confirms their worldview—and it does!''



More here:
https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.co ... no-lizard/
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Rabble rouser Ken Ham and his unscientific lying colleagues

Postby a_haworthroberts » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:54 pm

https://answersingenesis.org/environmen ... te-change/
''We cannot understand the climate change issue unless we ground our perspective in God’s Word.''
These dangerous liars are making stuff up. The Bible says NOTHING about climate change - whether natural or man-made. Genesis 8:22 is about seasons and day and night - not an 'unchanging' future climate.
''In their zeal to protect the environment, however, few activists stop to question the data that supposedly links human activity to a rise in global temperature or to a rise in the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events.''
LIAR. I have questioned this (after hearing deniers like Answers in Genesis) but remain 100 per cent convinced that current global warming has been caused by human activities - and will not stop unless we do something radical about it. There is abundant data linking rising temperatures with additional greenhouse gases emitted by human activities. Mr White is a dangerous extremist fool. Many Christians rightly profoundly disagree with his nonsense.

''If we find that our actions are truly detrimental to the earth, and particularly to its inhabitants, we should change what we are doing.'' They are - whether it is environmental change, pointless destruction of wildlife or global warming and rising sea levels.
''In this case, that boils down to answering the question, “Is CO2 the predominant cause of the current change in the climate?” This is not easy to answer because we have so much more to learn about many factors that influence our climate.'' LIAR. Making stuff up, Because he is an extreme unscientific creationist fundamentalist. Who rejects inconvenient reality - and urges other Christians to do likewise.
''Yet Christians will never be on the same page with non-Christians because we have such radically different starting points. The key to interpreting the scientific data and determining whether the earth’s climate is out of control is found in the light of God’s Word. Without this starting point, people will reach radically different conclusions about the state of our climate and what, if anything, needs to be done.'' LIAR. As I have already explained.

And the alleged concern of AiG for the poor is decidedly suspect (these hypocrites won't question their made-up dogma that claims humans have not caused recent global warming):
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Dangerous deniers

Postby a_haworthroberts » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:26 pm

https://answersingenesis.org/environmen ... te-change/
'' ... his promise that the earth will remain habitable ...''.
It will if emissions are cut (and people ignore the dangerous deniers such as Answers 'in' Genesis). If not it probably won't (be habitable for our species and some others) - and it will NOT be God's fault. It will be the fault of these selfish stupid blinkered deniers (whether 'Christian' or 'secular').
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Dangerous lying fanatics

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:04 pm

https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken- ... te-change/
No. People will be told LIES. By professing 'Christians'.

What a way to earn a living. Lying to Christians about science.
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The real extremists

Postby a_haworthroberts » Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:52 pm

https://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/
''What Scientists Ignore About Climate Change
"All-time record temperatures in Paris, fires in the Amazon, Mississippi River flooding, the Maldives underwater . . .
Everywhere we turn, we hear warnings about serious threats to life on earth. With each report, extremists demand immediate, drastic government measures to slow down climate change before it is too late.
Most stories lay the blame squarely on us humans, particularly on carbon dioxide (CO2), a greenhouse gas produced by our burning coal, oil, or natural gas. In their zeal to protect the environment, however, few activists stop to question the data that supposedly links human activity to a rise in global temperature or to a rise in the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events. Even fewer have taken the time to consider how proposed restrictions on fossil fuels could make life more difficult, especially for the poor." Learn more in this article by Dr. Alan White: [link]''.

They are not 'extremists' they are simply concerned for the future welfare of humanity and Earth's ecosystems.

Ken Ham is a LIAR. And I strongly suspect he is a fake Christian given the number of lies he tells.

Christians (and climate scientists) should indeed ignore this nonsense Answers in Genesis keep on repeating. Their dogmatic opinions on this subject are selfish, dangerous - and fictional.
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Rabble rousers not evangelists

Postby a_haworthroberts » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:22 pm

https://www.facebook.com/GeorgiaPurdom/
''I've been listening to Ken Ham speak for over 25 years and his passion for sharing and equipping others with the truth of God’s Word has not wavered and has only gotten stronger!''
Except that he and Purdom frequently brainwash their audiences (including children) with sheer nonsense - eg a 'post-flood ice age' - that is completely fictional and is not even found in Genesis or anywhere else in the Bible. They are authoritarian cultists and extremists. Liars for 'Genesis'.
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