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Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby Brian Jordan » Sun May 11, 2014 10:39 am

Set alight by a Trojan Horse, no less.
The NSS has highlighted a report in the Sunday Sun about links between extremists and the Bridge Schools Inspectorate. They say
Inspectors with extremist views are working for the body responsible for inspecting Muslims and Christian independent schools, according to a investigation carried out by The Sunday Sun.
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Another trustee, David Freeman, an ex-chair of the Christian Schools Trust, was behind the King's School in Witney which used Accelerated Christian Education curriculum, noted for its emphasis on the most extreme form of young-Earth creationism and famed, until 2013, for teaching in science that the existence of the Loch Ness monster was evidence against evolution.
(Well done, Jonny!)
http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2014/05/concerns-raised-over-religious-hardliners-inspecting-independent-faith-schools
Unfortunately, they don't link to the original article or include it in their media roundup: and it will, in any case, be behind the Murdochican paywall. Maybe it will be mentioned in the Sunday Times when I get round to reading it.
EDIT:
THERE IS - an article suggesting that the BSI is in danger of being scrapped!
I'll post more details when I've had chance to study it.
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby cathy » Sun May 11, 2014 4:04 pm

Normally wouldn't touch any version of the Sun before first obtaining a large barge pole and donning three pairs of marigolds, but my parents read it :x and I grew up with its weekday version :( so I will ask my mum to save and send it to me so can report on the story. It has however come up elsewhere.


http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 543_1.html



Either way the goal now, I would say, is to ensure the 'Christian' part of the Bridge Schools Inspectorate is not allowed to stay! That is a likely outcome. That the CST is ignored because it is 'Christian' and white, whilst the AMS part is hived off and finished with. The awfulness of AMS and Trojan horse (segregation, marital rape, homophobia etc) is NOT confined to the Muslim part. It is just that the racist/cultural elements are absent. Johnny's experiences must count as well as Muslim ones.

But this is good news. Suddenly extremist nonsense is in the news and people are listening at long last. Meanwhile elsewhere in la la Gove land, free schools are haemorrhaging cash which is being robbed from LEAs who are desperately short of school places. Whole loads of chickens are coming home to roost.
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby cathy » Wed May 14, 2014 6:57 pm

The governor at the centre of the storm was on radio four this morning. Seems to have written a document in 2007 on which a lot of the accusations were based. Well worth listening to. Calls himself a practicing Muslim rather than admitting to religious conservatism. Does admit that his wife a daughter cover everything but hands and face but denies the fact that is in document means is what is in school.

Mentioned a lot about the fact original allegations anonymous but refuses to comment on fact that brum city council had received 200 complaints since, including from Muslims who felt children were getting a harder line view of Islam than they got at home. Couldn't answer why six non Muslim heads had left their jobs, tho did say in his seven years as governor he'd overseen appt of three none of whom were Muslims. Ofsted report seen by him but not to be released till early next month.

Even if this is hoax, let's hope it has SUCCESSFULLY shone enough of a spotlight on nonsensical idea of schools self inspecting with their mates that is BSI

Report here,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... m-27355014


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27405357
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby cathy » Sat May 24, 2014 8:25 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... ee-primary

Private but inspected by real ofsted so not part of BSI. A private Muslim school in trouble.

Oops need to edit It is part of the Bridge Schools Inspectorate!!! (Exclamation marks just for Garner)"

So real ofsted have moved in on a BSI inspected school :shock: :shock: :shock:

Sylvs bridge really is burning. Cos if she's channeling Rushdooney ideas than CST ideas aren't that far removed and her thesis suggests similar ideas on homosexuality.
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby cathy » Sat May 24, 2014 9:22 pm

The olive tree primary was actually inspected by BSI in 2012 and found to be lacking even by them

http://www.olivetreeprimary.co.uk

http://www.olivetreeprimary.co.uk/inspection.pdf

Tho it would appear it met the aims of AMS.

So why are real ofsted going into schools already inspected by a group licensed by them to do the job?
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby cathy » Fri May 30, 2014 9:10 am

Jewish STATE schools in trouble again. Not for altering science exams this time, this time it is geopolitical. Instead of ignoring evidence for evolution it's borders with Palestine. Or indeed just Palestine. Still would a 6000 heal old Earth have had time for so many borders?

www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6430085

Meanwhile more possible strife for Sylv as Ofstaed considers removing outsourcing from its own real inspections.

www.theguardian.com/education/2014/29/o ... s-directly

No real sign of its outsourced to private loony schools sadly. But who knows, with a bit of pressure.

If the link doesn't work it's on the guardians education section.
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What does this mean?

Postby Brian Jordan » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:55 am

Is it just a journalist's misunderstanding or has Sylvia friends in high places? Slipped into a Guarian article on faith schools is this:
All of which would be second nature to any of the religious specialists from the Bridge Schools Inspectorate, promoted by both Muslim and Christian campaigners and now employed by the DfE(my emphasis)
I suppose it could at a pinch be taken as meaning that some Bridge inspectors have moved to the DfE but I don't think so.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/07/trojan-horse-infiltration-faith-schools-secular-education
Edit to add:
I wrote that before I finished the article. There was more to come:
At Grey Coat in Westminster, Mr Gove's favourite, the inspector congratulated students "able to identify the contribution of a number of scholars to the Design argument for the existence of God".
Could be innocent, but as they seem to have dwelt on it it could be decidedly not.
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby cathy » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:58 pm

Hmm, given the journalistic quality of the rest of the article, which is about on a par with a Paul Garner DVD - I suspect she is confusing Ofsted with DfE. Though inspections are carried out via Ofsted, via Ofsted outsourced groups for DfE.

Perhaps she is referring to the draft changes and consultations to independent schools inspections which I think I mentioned here somewhere as being discussed on the BSI sits. I though it would might be useful to BCSE to know about them and get involved. However as there was no response I haven't a clue whether it was interesting or not.

But just in case here are the details from DfE website. From what I can recall from the BSI website much earlier they were very keen to be involved at the consultation stages. As I've already said.
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... and-advice

The only interesting thing that seems to have arisen in respect of independent schools inspections as far as I can see is the extent to which they are independent from the schools they inspect, which in the case of BSI is not at all.

She could of course be confused about Tahir Alam's various roles, tho never with BSI. Tahir Alam, the lead governor at Park View, and hence the whole of the academy trust has OFSTED inspected for all three of Goves outsourced state school inspectorates. Tribal, CfBT and Serco. All of which are nowt to do with the independent sector. Though I believe the outsourcing nonsense for state schools is now to stop and Ofsted to go back to employing its inspectors directly. Ha ha.

But the fact such a loony was allowed to inspect when his trust schools were referring to white women as prostitutes in his trusts primary schools is beyond me.

Tahir Alam also got away with a lot as part of the govts Prevent scheme to engage young Muslims and 'prevent' radicalisation. Which as far as I can see meant a gentle nudging of schools toward a more conservative Islam without any dissent in the name of 'integration', i.e. rather than schools make Muslims more integrated to us, make us more integrated to Muslim schools. Which I guess is another contributory factor to the Trojan Horse mess.

What I think would be of interest to BCSE is the fact that Gove is possibly going to use new measures set up to allow him to remove governors of independent schools to remove the governors involved in this. Tahir Alam, Monzoor Hussain, Razhen Farez and the other bloke. This is also some part of legislation to deal with private schools that are failing in some way.

It is interesting cos tho it is being used here because the schools are academies they can be treated as private schools rather than state ones. That means that if CST and AMS are pushing the same sort of nonsense, which we know they are, there is now a precedent for intervening. If of course anyone is around at BCSE any more to point them in the right direction.

But in general Brian, the whole of that article is a pile of crap as far as I can see. Poorly researched excuse to have a personal rant. So I'm not sure what she means. Could be right could be on a par with the rest of it.
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby cathy » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:03 am

Association of Muslim schools finally responded to Trojan horse plot after it looks like it was cleared of any wrongdoing.

www.ams-uk.org/press-release-trojan-horse-affair

Though it was NOT part of Trojan Horse, one ams school has also been slated by Ofsted. Al hijrah, part of ams but now in the state sector has gone into special measures. Not sure it should be part of ams if in state sector but it is.

Rated special measures by real ofsted, used to be ok when inspected by BSI. Financial mismanagement this time.
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby Brian Jordan » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:36 pm

However, according to today's Daily Politics on BBC2, Clarke has included the AMS specifically among the villains. Sufficiently strongly for the programme to allow an AMS spokesman to respond "Nowt to do wiv us, Guv". I'm assuming that the "leaked report" accepts that AMS has no formal relationship with the schools involved (apart from the one Cathy mentions) but has been, rather, something like the horse from which some of the Trojans have crawled.
Unfortunately, I cannot make out which Guardian leaked, partial, report was being quoted. The Grauniad itself only seems to have old news about a report due to be released last Friday.
Maybe more will out as the day progresses.
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby cathy » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:49 pm

Peter Clarkes report just been in the news. The way it was worded suggested Trojan Horse not a hoax to uncover dodgy practices but a genuine attempt. Mentions something called the Park View Brotherhood. The news mentioned people on bail and teachers being suspended.

All I can find so far is this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-28419901

Which contains a link to the actual report.
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby cathy » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:05 pm

Also reported in TES.
www.news.tes.uk/b/news/2014/07/22/troja ... ws-39.aspx

Male teachers social media with homophobic attitudes. Links to extremist preachers. Pictures of Israeli flag on loo roll and so on.

So does this go to AMS? We know it won't be anything to do with Bridge Schools Inspectorate directly as all state schools. But CST schools are also extremist. Could this be the way to finally get to sobbing Sylv?

By the way, in the Summer edition of CST magazine, a talk by Sylv was reported on where she'd mentioned the role of creationist teaching?
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby cathy » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:05 pm

Also reported in TES.
www.news.tes.uk/b/news/2014/07/22/troja ... ws-39.aspx

Male teachers social media with homophobic attitudes. Links to extremist preachers. Pictures of Israeli flag on loo roll and so on.

So does this go to AMS? We know it won't be anything to do with Bridge Schools Inspectorate directly as all state schools. But CST schools are also extremist. Could this be the way to finally get to sobbing Sylv?

By the way, in the Summer edition of CST magazine, a talk by Sylv was reported on where she'd mentioned the role of creationist teaching?
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Trojan Horse

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:25 pm

cathy wrote:Peter Clarkes report just been in the news. The way it was worded suggested Trojan Horse not a hoax to uncover dodgy practices but a genuine attempt. Mentions something called the Park View Brotherhood. The news mentioned people on bail and teachers being suspended.

All I can find so far is this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-28419901

Which contains a link to the actual report.



I suspect the chances are, with things as they are at present, that this will not get huge amount of coverage on BBC scheduled news broadcasts this evening. Due to all the war news that will dominate yet again.

Though perhaps Channel 4 News and/or Newsnight will spend some time. As well as the BBC News Channel at unpredictable moments - possibly, and if there's no urgent or long-lasting breaking news.

No doubt it will probably be the lead story on BBC Midlands Today - which comes up on iplayer later on (for 24 hours from time of broadcast I think).

Ironic that Ken Ham and co will be preaching their 'biblical' truth close by to where this has been occurring, in Sandwell, in September - though the affair might have faded in the memory by then (but he might choose to mention the Muslim lies against local Christians that were reported).
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Re: Start sobbing Sylvia - your Bridge is burning!

Postby Brian Jordan » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:04 pm

cathy wrote:Peter Clarkes report just been in the news. The way it was worded suggested Trojan Horse not a hoax to uncover dodgy practices but a genuine attempt. Mentions something called the Park View Brotherhood. The news mentioned people on bail and teachers being suspended.

All I can find so far is this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-28419901

Which contains a link to the actual report.
Which seems to be this:[url]https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/335243
/Report_into_allegations_concerning_Birmingham_schools_arising_from_the_Trojan_Horse_letter-web.pdf[/url]
Which, as far as I can see, makes no mention of AMS. I'm baffled, The Daily Politics was quite specific. I suppose I'll have to watch it on iPlayer and make a copy. I'll see if I can get a screenshot tomorrow.
On the face of it, I'm tempted to suspect that they had a leaked draft which was subsequently changed too late for the programme to react.
Edit: iPlayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04bwnlm/daily-politics-22072014
I'll try to watch it again tomorrow.
Edit again:
The culprits, including the AMS are listed beginning at 6mins30/
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