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Is he becoming more moronic - or just staying the same?

Postby a_haworthroberts » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:48 pm

http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs ... declining/
"human intelligence has been on the decline (since the Fall of Genesis 3) ...".

http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs ... Ken+Ham%29
"If we begin with man’s word that humans are the product of millions of years of slow evolution, then it makes sense that humans may someday be unable to evolve to keep up with AI. But if you start with God’s Word, you get a very different picture..."

I'm a little confused and suspect I am not the only one. He appears to use one argument to try and agree with something he likes the sound of - and then use virtually the opposite argument to 'refute' something he objects to. In essence he appears to be saying that those evilutionists are wrong (as 'always'). But then that in fact we are not evolving slowly (too slowly) rather we are actually 'devolving' and 'degrading'. He also (again seemingly contradicting his earlier blog as well as making assertions about the limitations of computers that I find bizarre) claims "in 2013, scientists attempted to simulate the activity in the human brain using the K computer, the fourth most powerful super computer in the world. That computer simulated one second of biological time in a brain 1% the size of a human, and it took 40 minutes!" and "if you added up all the processing power in the world in 2007, including everything from calculators to smart phones and laptops, it would only add up to the processing power of one single human brain"*. (And, if you believe the endless pseudo-science of this man - based on his previous blog pronouncement quoted above, Noah was even MORE brainy than that.)

Besides perhaps Jesus will come back sometime before AI has a chance to take over.) Either way Hawking's concerns should be ignored.

All this doesn't seem very clever by our friend. (But that's probably his main argument - creationists are becoming less intelligent over time.)


* I doubt that this paper actually says what he claims it says:
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/332/6025/60


PS (just seen):
http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com ... hawking-3/

PPS on 10 Dec:
I have just tried to comment as follows here (awaits moderation; the blogger has also remarked on Ham's questionable comparison of the human brain with the power of computers):
http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... nt-1559860
"If you added up all the processing power in the world in 2007, including everything from calculators to smart phones and laptops, it would only add up to the processing power of one single human brain.” (Ken Ham in his blog.)
A claim allegedly found here:
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/332/6025/60
Has anyone read the full paper in Science cited by Ham? Does it really say what he claims (which sounds extraordinary)?
Trying to recall – did a computer beat a top chess player (or is that a myth)?
Please see:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3596
I have also flagged the bizarre claims of Ham regarding human intelligence here:
http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com ... hawking-3/"
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Re: Is he becoming more moronic - or just staying the same?

Postby Brian Jordan » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:43 am

a_haworthroberts wrote:I'm a little confused and suspect I am not the only one. He appears to use one argument to try and agree with something he likes the sound of - and then use virtually the opposite argument to 'refute' something he objects to.
Well, there you are then: double support for his views! He may even see it that way.
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Re: Is he becoming more moronic - or just staying the same?

Postby a_haworthroberts » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:56 pm

In fact it is possible to read the full paper in Science (from 2011) mentioned by Ham in that recent AI sorry AIG blog, if you register (free of charge). I did so and skimmed the paper. The final paragraph reads: “To put our findings in perspective, the 6.4 × 1018 instructions per second that humankind can carry out on its general-purpose computers in 2007 are in the same ballpark area as the maximum number of nerve impulses executed by one human brain per second (1017) (36). The 2.4 × 1021 bits stored by humanity in all of its technological devices in 2007 is approaching an order of magnitude of the roughly 1023 bits stored in the DNA of a human adult (37), but it is still minuscule as compared with the 1090 bits stored in the observable universe (38). However, in contrast to natural information processing, the world’s technological information processing capacities are quickly growing at clearly exponential rates.”
Ken Ham claimed “If you added up all the processing power in the world in 2007, including everything from calculators to smart phones and laptops, it would only add up to the processing power of one single human brain.” So he appears to be sort of correct. Although things appear to have moved on more recently:

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1630 ... processors

And last I heard computers do not need to sleep (though I think they do not run at full capacity 24 hours a day 365 days a year).
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Re: Is he becoming more moronic - or just staying the same?

Postby Brian Jordan » Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:32 pm

a_haworthroberts wrote:it would only add up to the processing power of one single human brain.” So he appears to be sort of correct.
Non sequitur: whether he's got the sums right or wrong doesn't matter, because he's doing the wrong calculation.
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